Why we bought a cheap house for $130k

by Chris Guthrie · 23 comments

highclere castle

Just because you’re approved doesn’t mean you should buy it
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This isn’t going to be a post detailing my experiences with making money online using some new method, but it indirectly relates to business success as a whole so keep on reading. Hopefully I’ll help prevent you from making one of the biggest financial mistakes of your life as well – buying a house when you can’t rent it for at least the cost of the monthly mortgage.

Why We Bought A Cheap House For $130,000

1. When it comes to areas with a high cost of living it’s incredibly risky (idiotic) to buy a house when it can just as easily be rented for less money.

Late last year we bought a house south of Seattle for $130,000 with a 15 year fixed mortgage at 2.875% interest, 5% down and our monthly payments are now $1,150. Now depending on where you live and how much money you make that figure may sound like a lot of money or veryyyyy little. In our case because of both the income from my business and the average house price where we were living in Seattle was $400,000+ it’s actually really cheap.

We lived in West Seattle for about 4 years but it’s always been too expensive to buy when we could just rent instead. In fact, the house we moved out of would have cost us $550,000 to buy (they put it up for sale while we were renting). The 30 year mortgage on a $550,000 house would have run us roughly $3,000 per month and yet we rented the house that was being offered for $550,000 for only $1,500 per month for nearly two years. Why then would we buy a house that would cost us $3,000 per month in mortgage costs when we could rent it for half that? And yet, millions of idiots (people) continue to do just that.

I could continue making these arguments but I think Patrick.net does a better job than I and with more data points:

Why It’s A Terrible Time To Buy An Expensive House
Defend Yourself From Bogus Arguments
Calculate House Value Via Rents (My Favorite Tool)

We did make offers on a few less expensive houses in West Seattle that could have rented for close to the monthly mortgage but with one house we offered on there were 14 other offers on the house. When there is that much competition it’s idiotic to bid more just to get the house. So because I can live and work from anywhere we decided to cut our costs and buy a cheap house instead.

I will miss my back yard view though
my backyard view

2. The less I have to spend on personal expenses the more I can invest in my business or spend time simply not working at all.

Most Americans have it wrong. You don’t go out and buy the massive house, two new cars and a boat all on credit with an income level that can barely meet those monthly bills. Just because you’re approved for the loan doesn’t mean you should do it. That is complete idiocy, especially if you’d like to retire before you’re 65.

I had it wrong when I bought a brand new 2008 Subaru WRX for $25,000+ after getting my first “real job” as a sales rep back in 2008 with a base salary of $31,250 per year – a laughably idiotic mistake. It was especially stupid because when I bought the car it was just before the economic meltdown so my interest rate was also 5.9%. Later that year my friend bought a new 2008 Subaru WRX STI (a better / faster version of my car) for what we figured out would be only $3,000 more because he got 0% interest and extra money knocked off the car because car companies were desperate for sales (typically it should have cost nearly $10k more to get that car – not saying he was right either but just further illustrating my failure).

Since that mistake in my mid twenties we paid that car off last year ahead of schedule and have since paid off most of my wife’s student loans after having a change of heart about my $26,000 mistake. But the real point of reducing my personal expenses was so that I could invest more money into my business. Now with less debt and less monthly expenses I’m able to take more risks with projects that may or may not take off. Am I frustrated that a project I spent $10,000+ on last year looks like it’s going to be a waste? Of course. But because I’m always taking risks I also had another project last year do $300k+ in gross sales with my net on that being over $60,000+ in profit.

I’d use a Wayne Gretzky quote about missing 100% of the shots you don’t take, but I prefer Mark Cuban’s advice on failure and luck instead:

“It doesn’t matter how many times you fail. It doesn’t matter how many times you almost get it right. No one is going to know or care about your failures, and neither should you. All you have to do is learn from them and those around you because… All that matters in business is that you get it right once. Then everyone can tell you how lucky you are.”
Mark Cuban

When I ultimately exit from a business with f&^! you money I’ll have plenty of critics saying how lucky I was or whatever, but they also won’t know how many times I failed or how earlier in life I was willing to drastically reduce my personal expenses by buying a cheap investment house so I could try and grow my business faster.

3. If I can work from anywhere I may as well work from someplace cheap to live.

There is a massive consumption problem here in America. Certainly no matter what I say will stop it – heck – I’ve even profited handsomely from it, but hopefully some of you that read this will take this advice to heart. The point is that if you truly want to build and grow an online business the last thing you want to do is to overextend yourself financially to large monthly payments on a massive house, two new cars you can’t afford because you’re unwilling to use alternative modes of transportation like a bus or train perhaps?

Our personal monthly fixed expenses are now lower than they’ve ever been in the past 3 years and yet my income is dramatically higher than what it was when I first lost my job. After I finish work on fixing up this house and meet the 1 year HUD requirement of living we could turn it over as a rental and just as easily buy another house to fix up and turn into an eventual rental as well.

This has turned into somewhat of a rant, but all I’d like to say is this:

Bottom Line: Don’t be a typical American idiot and over commit yourself financially to bills you can hardly afford. If you ever want to break free and build your own dream lifestyle then try to cut your fixed monthly expenses while at the same time finding ways to increase your income.

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Julie February 1, 2013 at 3:16 pm

I totally agree! We have made some big money mistakes in the past but our house wasn’t one of them. We were able to get a nice, modest home, just the right size for our family for a very good price. I know we will make more money in the future but we are content with our home and our mortgage. It feels very right to us and we don’t feel like we are paying too much on it each month.
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Billy Murphy February 1, 2013 at 3:21 pm

Great post Chris. Ya, a lot of entrepreneurs and aspiring entrepreneurs have it ingrained in them that they MUST invest in a house or in the stock market. However, the returns they could get investing in themselves/their own businesses are so ridiculously higher that no matter how the RE/stock markets do it’s -EV for them to do so if they don’t have a certain amount already set aside for that.

Nate Whitehill February 1, 2013 at 3:22 pm

Dude, such an awesome post and something I’ve been trying to tell my GF for a long time. You are a smart man coming to this realization and doing what it takes to cut costs and take more risks.

Mike Levinson February 1, 2013 at 6:05 pm

Great stuff Chris. Already in the house and the family is settled but I can still reduce expenses and working on that. The flip side is getting that side income up and moving. It’s trending up, just never fast enough.
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Artur February 1, 2013 at 7:02 pm

I have found real estate to be the best investment period, just not the house I live in. The property we occupy should never be considered an investment: only shelter. Over many years I have always owned rental properties, but I myself have rented for a time and owned for a time. Renting is way undervalued, especially in the U.S.A where we are becoming increasingly more mobile.
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Dave Starr February 2, 2013 at 3:02 am

3. If I can work from anywhere I may as well work from someplace cheap to live.

Love the advice and experience you have shared here, Chris. Especially the “work from someplace cheap” advice.

I did you even one better. I moved to the Philippines and just kept on earning online from the US … nothing changed work-wise except my IP address and time zone. But not only is the cost of living at least 40% cheaper here than in the “Land of the American Dream (or Nightmare)”, but there are tremendous tax advantages for folks who live here and earn from outside the country … with the same income my net spendable income is up more than 40% thanks to the rules on foreign earned income and such.

I’m an older, already retired guy. A lot of my online friends sigh wistfully and say, “Oh someday I would like to do what you did.’. Sad part is, they could save a lot more in their younger years when they need the income more if they just realized you don’t have to live where you earn.

This is some of the best advice I have ever seen online, from anyone of any age:

Don’t be a typical American idiot (as I was for so many years) and over commit yourself financially to bills you can hardly afford…

Darnell Jackson February 2, 2013 at 2:42 pm

You guys are freaking smart.

Now imagine that you bought a property for cash and fixed it up? Then you would owe no one nothing.

However it might take you 10 years to get it fixed up the way you want it.

Like I say you guys are freaking smart.

Problem everyone can’t get those rates.
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Mike February 2, 2013 at 3:21 pm

If I had only learned this at 20 instead of 40! But, it is never too little or too late! We’re attacking this now with real enthusiasm to make up for lost ground!
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jack Bauer February 3, 2013 at 7:41 am

I’d have thought you would have had enough by now to pay cash for that house.

Kris @ Detailed Success February 4, 2013 at 2:09 am

Great post!

I live below my means and I tend to do so until I have enough stacked away that I don’t have to worry about it.

I don’t need a big house and fancy cars to feel good. I left work and started to work for myself, because I didn’t like the feeling of being trapped. With a huge mortgage and overhead I would still feel trapped.

The feeling of not worrying about money is priceless.
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Nate Rivers February 4, 2013 at 9:03 pm

Great post Chris- wise advice. Although I will say that Mercedes Benz commercial last night with William Dafoe pretty much sold me on their new model. That was a great ad.

Chris February 6, 2013 at 1:47 pm

Great post. Thanks for sharing what you’ve learned. I live in LA, so as you might guess, I can barely afford rent in a nice area–and let’s not get started on buying a house out here. It’s almost an impossibility. So renting become truly affordable when you factor in what it would cost to own. This is a good post — it’s important not to buy into the hype of home ownership and the trappings of success. I want to be financially independent for the rest of my life and be able to live the life I want where I want. This is why I work in the Internet space.

I don’t want to be one of these people with an $80,000 late model Mercedes parked in front of an apartment (how can this make sense?! — I see it all the time!). Wow, this turned into a bit of a rant too :)
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Miki Vicioso February 10, 2013 at 11:47 pm

I completely agree with your post. Most people are not money savvy and they want to live the rockstar life but if an emergency rises up they are left with nothing. People need to be smart with their money as it run out quick.
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Donna Spears February 11, 2013 at 11:36 pm

Your backyard view is beautiful indeed.
I agree in your idea and I have learned something in that experience of yours.
It’s nice to be practical in our life and living because the economy is not stable.
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