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> <channel><title>Comments on: Site Flipping Case Study (Pre Flip)</title> <atom:link href="http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/site-flipping-case-study-pre-flip/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/site-flipping-case-study-pre-flip/</link> <description>Learn How to Make Money on the Internet</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:51:11 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: 5 Great Reasons to Start Flipping Sites &#187; Ask Shane.org</title><link>http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/site-flipping-case-study-pre-flip/comment-page-1/#comment-3884</link> <dc:creator>5 Great Reasons to Start Flipping Sites &#187; Ask Shane.org</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:14:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/?p=602#comment-3884</guid> <description>[...] here?? Be sure to subscribe to the RSS feed so you don&#039;t miss anything!Chris is going to try site flipping and Jay has posted 5 Reasons Why Flipping New Sites Is Better Than Keeping Them.? Those are two [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] here?? Be sure to subscribe to the RSS feed so you don&#8217;t miss anything!Chris is going to try site flipping and Jay has posted 5 Reasons Why Flipping New Sites Is Better Than Keeping Them.? Those are two [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Guthrie</title><link>http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/site-flipping-case-study-pre-flip/comment-page-1/#comment-3851</link> <dc:creator>Chris Guthrie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:04:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/?p=602#comment-3851</guid> <description>Hey Jay,Yah I had a feeling you&#039;d be commenting on this post. Great ideas - these are all things I&#039;m going to consider. Either way I&#039;m very excited to see how well it goes.I&#039;m also going to document the time from start to finish to I can calculate an hourly rate for my efforts as well :)Feng - Hey what&#039;s going on? No I&#039;m not full time yet, primarily because my wife is back to school for her masters. But yah I&#039;d love to have lunch and catch up. Yes I do live in Seattle too - send me an email through the contact form.&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Chris Guthrie´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ChrisGuthrie/~3/450852344/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Site Flipping Case Study (Pre Flip)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jay,</p><p>Yah I had a feeling you&#8217;d be commenting on this post. Great ideas &#8211; these are all things I&#8217;m going to consider. Either way I&#8217;m very excited to see how well it goes.</p><p>I&#8217;m also going to document the time from start to finish to I can calculate an hourly rate for my efforts as well <img
src='http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Feng &#8211; Hey what&#8217;s going on? No I&#8217;m not full time yet, primarily because my wife is back to school for her masters. But yah I&#8217;d love to have lunch and catch up. Yes I do live in Seattle too &#8211; send me an email through the contact form.</p><p><abbr><em>Chris Guthrie´s last blog post..<a
href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ChrisGuthrie/~3/450852344/" rel="nofollow">Site Flipping Case Study (Pre Flip)</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: pood</title><link>http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/site-flipping-case-study-pre-flip/comment-page-1/#comment-3845</link> <dc:creator>pood</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:28:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/?p=602#comment-3845</guid> <description>LAWL CHRIS, it&#039;s feng. I was reading shoemoney&#039;s post about local marketing and saw your name. (I&#039;ve been working on something similar the last month)are you a full time affiliate marketer now? still in seattle? we should have lunch and catch up.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LAWL CHRIS, it&#8217;s feng. I was reading shoemoney&#8217;s post about local marketing and saw your name. (I&#8217;ve been working on something similar the last month)</p><p>are you a full time affiliate marketer now? still in seattle? we should have lunch and catch up.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dennis Edell</title><link>http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/site-flipping-case-study-pre-flip/comment-page-1/#comment-3844</link> <dc:creator>Dennis Edell</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:04:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/?p=602#comment-3844</guid> <description>I&#039;m quite interested to see. All the hoopla lately has got me a wee interested in something i didn&#039;t think would. :)&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dennis Edell´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.directsaleswebmarketing.com/10-effective-joint-venture-ideas/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;10 Effective Joint Venture Ideas To Get You Started&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m quite interested to see. All the hoopla lately has got me a wee interested in something i didn&#8217;t think would. <img
src='http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p><abbr><em>Dennis Edell´s last blog post..<a
href="http://www.directsaleswebmarketing.com/10-effective-joint-venture-ideas/" rel="nofollow">10 Effective Joint Venture Ideas To Get You Started</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: SuiteJ</title><link>http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/site-flipping-case-study-pre-flip/comment-page-1/#comment-3843</link> <dc:creator>SuiteJ</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:48:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/?p=602#comment-3843</guid> <description>You knew I was going to comment on this one, right Chris? lolNah, I&#039;m not going to write a novel here, but part of me wants to. ;)If you only wanted to grind out NEW sites to &quot;flip&quot; as your primary source of income it &quot;could&quot; be a 9-5 grind. However, if you did plan on going that route, I&#039;d assume you were looking at website flipping as a real business model, and so it would be a good idea to outsource a lot of the work. That way, you do more volume for the same profit, and less work on your end (and thereby losing the &quot;grind&quot;).And if we&#039;re talking about flipping brand new sites, you don&#039;t have to &quot;spend most of your day researching a niche to build a site around&quot;. It can actually take you about 10-15 minutes (ok an hour tops if this is your first time) searching the SitePoint marketplace. View what niches are selling like hot cakes in the past 30 days (in the Start Up Websites section).
Since you&#039;re doing 30 days though, it will benefit you to research good keywords available to gain traffic by using ones that you can dominate through promotion/seo and gaining traffic faster and hoepfully sales or ad/click revenue.If you&#039;re going to wait 30 days, then focus heavily on gaining traffic, backlinks, subscribers and a couple sales. Don&#039;t let it sit for 30 days just so it&#039;s &quot;older&quot; when you sell it. You won&#039;t get any more for a site that&#039;s 30 days old compared to 24hours old if there&#039;s not a big difference in stats.The laddering is a great idea. If you like flipping sites, you can also flip 1 a week on top of the 30 day ones for extra $$ while the 30 day ones are building. :)As for &quot;using up niches&quot;. You keep the killer ones for yourself! Sell sites that are &quot;hot niches&quot; (if you&#039;re selling them quickly, while they&#039;re brand new).@Brian: It is very possible to get significant traffic in 30 days! Some people have different views on what is significant. You can make sales from dominating long tail keywords with low competition (and low volume). So, if you can convert 1:50, that&#039;s 3 sales in 150 visitors. That&#039;s significant, but not &quot;high&quot; volume. That will help sell your site though.
Also, buyers don&#039;t base the value solely on traffic, although (obviously) it helps. Revenue from a consistent, targeted traffic source is number one. There are a ton of great marketers who know what they&#039;re doing and snap up good sites for their network/portfolio. It&#039;s not all newbie buyers looking for a &quot;start&quot;.All that is based on flipping brand new sites. It&#039;d be a &quot;bit&quot; of a different discussion if you were planning to build a site for 6 months-18 months with the intention to flip.Chris, if you have Skype, add me.
Looking forward to your case study!
Good luck!
Jay&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;SuiteJ´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://suitej.com/flippin-fridays/5-reasons-why-flipping-new-sites-is-better-than-keeping-them/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;5 Reasons Why Flipping New Sites Is Better Than Keeping Them&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You knew I was going to comment on this one, right Chris? lol</p><p>Nah, I&#8217;m not going to write a novel here, but part of me wants to. <img
src='http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>If you only wanted to grind out NEW sites to &#8220;flip&#8221; as your primary source of income it &#8220;could&#8221; be a 9-5 grind. However, if you did plan on going that route, I&#8217;d assume you were looking at website flipping as a real business model, and so it would be a good idea to outsource a lot of the work. That way, you do more volume for the same profit, and less work on your end (and thereby losing the &#8220;grind&#8221;).</p><p>And if we&#8217;re talking about flipping brand new sites, you don&#8217;t have to &#8220;spend most of your day researching a niche to build a site around&#8221;. It can actually take you about 10-15 minutes (ok an hour tops if this is your first time) searching the SitePoint marketplace. View what niches are selling like hot cakes in the past 30 days (in the Start Up Websites section).<br
/> Since you&#8217;re doing 30 days though, it will benefit you to research good keywords available to gain traffic by using ones that you can dominate through promotion/seo and gaining traffic faster and hoepfully sales or ad/click revenue.</p><p>If you&#8217;re going to wait 30 days, then focus heavily on gaining traffic, backlinks, subscribers and a couple sales. Don&#8217;t let it sit for 30 days just so it&#8217;s &#8220;older&#8221; when you sell it. You won&#8217;t get any more for a site that&#8217;s 30 days old compared to 24hours old if there&#8217;s not a big difference in stats.</p><p>The laddering is a great idea. If you like flipping sites, you can also flip 1 a week on top of the 30 day ones for extra $$ while the 30 day ones are building. <img
src='http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>As for &#8220;using up niches&#8221;. You keep the killer ones for yourself! Sell sites that are &#8220;hot niches&#8221; (if you&#8217;re selling them quickly, while they&#8217;re brand new).</p><p>@Brian: It is very possible to get significant traffic in 30 days! Some people have different views on what is significant. You can make sales from dominating long tail keywords with low competition (and low volume). So, if you can convert 1:50, that&#8217;s 3 sales in 150 visitors. That&#8217;s significant, but not &#8220;high&#8221; volume. That will help sell your site though.<br
/> Also, buyers don&#8217;t base the value solely on traffic, although (obviously) it helps. Revenue from a consistent, targeted traffic source is number one. There are a ton of great marketers who know what they&#8217;re doing and snap up good sites for their network/portfolio. It&#8217;s not all newbie buyers looking for a &#8220;start&#8221;.</p><p>All that is based on flipping brand new sites. It&#8217;d be a &#8220;bit&#8221; of a different discussion if you were planning to build a site for 6 months-18 months with the intention to flip.</p><p>Chris, if you have Skype, add me.<br
/> Looking forward to your case study!<br
/> Good luck!<br
/> Jay</p><p><abbr><em>SuiteJ´s last blog post..<a
href="http://suitej.com/flippin-fridays/5-reasons-why-flipping-new-sites-is-better-than-keeping-them/" rel="nofollow">5 Reasons Why Flipping New Sites Is Better Than Keeping Them</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Guthrie</title><link>http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/site-flipping-case-study-pre-flip/comment-page-1/#comment-3842</link> <dc:creator>Chris Guthrie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:12:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/?p=602#comment-3842</guid> <description>Hey all,Thanks I&#039;m glad that this sounds like a good idea and people are excited about it. I&#039;m leaning towards a small niche for this one but I&#039;m certainly going to keep in mind how much money can be made off the niche focus. I don&#039;t want to go after anything crazy like chemotherapy treatments or lawsuits.Hey Brian,I think you&#039;re right on the 30 day traffic mark. I just set that as an example date as I thought it would be easier to explain the concept of laddering using that. I think it would be at least 3 months to really see a significant difference.I borrowed the concept of laddering CD&#039;s . Which is to just buy a 5 year, 4 year, 3 year, 2 year and 1 year CD then when the first year is up reinvest that money into another 5 year CD so that you have a steady flow of high interest earning CD&#039;s every year.In any case I&#039;m very excited about this. This will truly be a case study with as little variables as possible especially because I&#039;ll be using a brand new Sitepoint profile to sell the site too :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all,</p><p>Thanks I&#8217;m glad that this sounds like a good idea and people are excited about it. I&#8217;m leaning towards a small niche for this one but I&#8217;m certainly going to keep in mind how much money can be made off the niche focus. I don&#8217;t want to go after anything crazy like chemotherapy treatments or lawsuits.</p><p>Hey Brian,</p><p>I think you&#8217;re right on the 30 day traffic mark. I just set that as an example date as I thought it would be easier to explain the concept of laddering using that. I think it would be at least 3 months to really see a significant difference.</p><p>I borrowed the concept of laddering CD&#8217;s . Which is to just buy a 5 year, 4 year, 3 year, 2 year and 1 year CD then when the first year is up reinvest that money into another 5 year CD so that you have a steady flow of high interest earning CD&#8217;s every year.</p><p>In any case I&#8217;m very excited about this. This will truly be a case study with as little variables as possible especially because I&#8217;ll be using a brand new Sitepoint profile to sell the site too <img
src='http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ben Tremblay</title><link>http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/site-flipping-case-study-pre-flip/comment-page-1/#comment-3841</link> <dc:creator>Ben Tremblay</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:18:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/?p=602#comment-3841</guid> <description>Well it is really interesting if you ask me. Honestly, I really want to hear more about the results of this site flip so can&#039;t wait.I&#039;m not too much into site flipping right now for a lot of different reasons, but I always like to hear about creative ways of making money online.&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ben Tremblay´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/frogstr/~3/447230543/drive-sales-with-offline-marketing-going-crazy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Drive sales with offline marketing - going crazy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it is really interesting if you ask me. Honestly, I really want to hear more about the results of this site flip so can&#8217;t wait.</p><p>I&#8217;m not too much into site flipping right now for a lot of different reasons, but I always like to hear about creative ways of making money online.</p><p><abbr><em>Ben Tremblay´s last blog post..<a
href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/frogstr/~3/447230543/drive-sales-with-offline-marketing-going-crazy" rel="nofollow">Drive sales with offline marketing &#8211; going crazy</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: browie</title><link>http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/site-flipping-case-study-pre-flip/comment-page-1/#comment-3840</link> <dc:creator>browie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:48:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.makemoneyontheinternet.com/?p=602#comment-3840</guid> <description>I&#039;m interested to hear at the end what you chose.Did you choose a hot niche and write some articles for QS and sell it for a IM?
Did you choose a specific niche and write a blog with theme that is set for adsense?That type of thing.  I like the first one the best (if you&#039;re a good writer)  some Internet Marketers will pay a few bucks just to have a site set up with content so they can get good QS on GooG.&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;browie´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.browie.com/affiliate-com-t-shirts/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Affiliate.com T-Shirts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested to hear at the end what you chose.</p><p>Did you choose a hot niche and write some articles for QS and sell it for a IM?<br
/> Did you choose a specific niche and write a blog with theme that is set for adsense?</p><p>That type of thing.  I like the first one the best (if you&#8217;re a good writer)  some Internet Marketers will pay a few bucks just to have a site set up with content so they can get good QS on GooG.</p><p><abbr><em>browie´s last blog post..<a
href="http://www.browie.com/affiliate-com-t-shirts/" rel="nofollow">Affiliate.com T-Shirts</a></em></abbr></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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